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Post by setmi on Sept 18, 2009 16:38:33 GMT -7
I know that I, for one, am hesitant to play Panzer simply because I don't know enough about Izan. I don't know if he'd recognize the other Heads, I don't know if he'd recognize underlings, I don't know what sort of stuff would be acceptable behavior in public and I sure as hell don't know who he's allowed to actually sell weapons too.
If anyone else feels this way too, feel free to post your own questions here, as I know I've missed out on some and you'll also most likely think of good questions I never would have.
Seriously Admins, we're in the dark here!
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Post by Lou on Sept 18, 2009 16:43:58 GMT -7
I've run into a similar problem myself. On top of that, how 'public' is the group? Is it a closed secret society, or more like a mafia, well within the public eye, but no one cares because they pay off the locals?
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Post by DODES on Sept 18, 2009 17:00:07 GMT -7
Ah, I see. Well, I'll just answer the things I know, though hopefully Akree can give a more definite response.. rofl.
Yes, all Heads probably would have met and should be able to recognize each other. Same goes for their underlings, and the same even goes for the underlings of other Heads - mostly they would know them through meetings and other things within the HQ. Izan isn't so secret that its own members wouldn't even know and talk to each other. The only exception to that is Damien, who they would just know as an assassin and not the Head, though they could still know him, as well as any other member.. if that makes sense.
And that is all I can really give a definite answer to... Akree, if you wanna clear things up, feel free to do so rofl.
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Post by DODES on Sept 19, 2009 13:15:04 GMT -7
Alrighty, I got the answers to your other questions from Akree, so here they are:
Members are allowed to do whatever they like, though advertising that they're an Izan member, telling outsiders things about Izan or drawing any unnecessary attention to themselves/Izan wouldn't be recommended... rofl. As long as they don't do any of that, or have any relations with any werewolves, they should be fine in doing whatever they want. Of course, they'd also have to obey the higher-ups - in your case that being Vince.
And Panzer would mostly sell weaponry to others within Izan, though he would also sell to other mobs/countries.
And Izan is a secret organization, though people would know it exists, if that makes sense... rofl. Basically, since Izan likes to cause a lot of trouble for werewolves, people would know that there's an organization against them, though they wouldn't know what it is, who is involved or even how many organizations they're actually are. So it's a bit of a mixture of both those things you said, I s'pose, Squeeji.
Anyway, hope that cleared a few things up for ya. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
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Post by redemption on Sept 19, 2009 15:21:15 GMT -7
This might be only a problem to me, but who are the heads of Izan? What positions are open? Information like that. It's helpful to know, because, say you have a spy, or an assassin, or dealer, any kind of lesser person. They are going to know who the head of their division is, because they have to get orders from someone.
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Post by DODES on Sept 19, 2009 15:30:11 GMT -7
Good point, though that information would be located here.
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Post by redemption on Sept 19, 2009 15:32:36 GMT -7
Ah thankies Dodo! I didn't know we had one of them... O.o
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Post by setmi on Sept 19, 2009 18:06:11 GMT -7
So in other words, selling weapons to werewolves is a no-no haha What about the Head of Intel? Would they be allowed to communicate with werewolves to gather information? Would seem kind of silly if even they weren't allowed too, as well as those directly beneath them.
Okay, so Panzer has to wait for people to approach him, or wait for orders from higher up then. Alright, sounds fair enough. Would he be allowed to sell weapons to the poor, defenseless humans that have to scurry the streets in hopes that no werewolves or vampires catch scent of them? Or would that be frowned upon? I mean, having the local citizens look up to Izan can't be a bad thing.
Also, on Izan's publicity, Squeeji brought up an interesting point when I was talking to her. They're sort of like the Illuminati then? Where everyone and their dogs know about them, but the members themselves will swear up and down that no such organization exist. That sound about right?
Dammit, I had another question too, but totally forgot it. Fffffff I'll be back when I can remember it lol
...if I remember it -_-
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Post by AKREE on Sept 19, 2009 18:16:05 GMT -7
Rofl well obviously the head of intel would be allowed to communicate with werewolves to a certain degree, though because of that the people who would have been sent to investigate a certain were would have to be /really/ trustworthy, rofl Damien is panicky like that.
Secondly, like I said Panzer could sell weapons to just about anyone just as long as the person wouldn’t turn the sold weapons against Izan itself. So frightened humans wouldn’t really be any kind of problem.
Thirdly, I have no bloody idea what you’re talking about, but I think you got something of it right… I think… but since like I mentioned I have no bloody idea what you’re talking about I can’t tell you for sure… rofl.
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Post by setmi on Sept 19, 2009 18:33:50 GMT -7
Damien seems to be very insecure with his position 0.o
Anyways, Google the Illuminati, or better yet, Wiki them. I think Squeeji hit the nail on the head, so to speak.
But that sort of brings up the question as to whether Izan can even really call themselves a mafia, as every mafia to date in the real world has been very, very public, but too dangerous for anyone to do or say shit about whatever might happen. Just saying haha
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Post by AKREE on Sept 19, 2009 18:45:32 GMT -7
Rofl, well Rebellious Group of Individuals doesn’t seem like a very good term for them and it’s basically called a mafia because well that’s what it previously was on Italy, over there it was much more public and whatnot, rofl. Anyway, I’ll go search on it tomorrow, I am much too lazy to be bothered atm, rofl and hw is killing me.
Rofl, Damien is not exactly insecure about his position though he could be considered that, he’s just overly paranoid and completely loathes weres and their like.
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Post by setmi on Sept 21, 2009 21:22:15 GMT -7
I REMEMBERED MY OTHER QUESTION!
Ahem, anyways. Yes.
How much are the people within Izan getting paid? Do Heads get paid more then lower associates? What sort of income would the Heads get paid then? Would they be living the rich life, or would they be forced to hide most of their money due to the mostly illegal activities that Izan does to get said money?
Ummm, and any other money related questions you Admins might think to answer that I haven't asked.
Oh! Like, is there a specific bank Izan members have to go too, or is it all cold cash? If the latter, HOLY CRAP! Or would it just be cheques? Does Izan have an accountant? Who keeps track of money?
Shutting up now.
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Post by AKREE on Oct 22, 2009 14:25:54 GMT -7
HOLYCHEESE I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT ANSWERING THIS AND YOOOOOOU, YOOOOOU DON'T REMIND ME, rofl.
Anyway: *cough* Well I don't know the exact amount in greens and metal, but they would get paid quite a LOT. Heads would have better salaries than underlings, of course. The lower the rank, the worst the pay. Though they would still get paid with generous salaries. As for the rich life thing, yes and no. It depends mostly on the identity the vampire or human would take outside of Izan. If they are richies who came to London already with money, then there's really no point in hiding money when they already have it themselves. If we are talking about poor suckers, obviously they would not SUDDENLY get rich. Also they would be encouraged not to waste their salary in huge spurts just after payday. Though, again, as long as they don't reveal anything about Izan, including its existence it's mostly up to you. (I want to let the players have some choice rather go FLAGGERBASTERGHAST YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR ELSE)
And, I could bet my soul Damien is rich enough to have his own accountants. Maybe he would give it in cold cash (HOLY CRAP indeed), but it all depends. There could also be this... weird... thing they do in banks where the money is deposited automatically... of course the original account would have to be untraceable. Anyway, depending on your rank would be the method of payment. Take Vince for example, Damien probably just dumps in the money himself ._. and as for heads, guess it would also depend on what they preferred. Since their bank account suddenly getting 213875274528735654873248738743187543278264587125374522 dollars would raise suspicion.
rofl, I am aware I barely answered the questions, but like i said i just want to make it the player's choice so they aren't completely restricted.
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